Episode #189: Where was Atlantis

Tony joins us this week to revisit the topic of Atlantis. This time we look at the details of the city and civilization itself, and the many possible places and times people have theorized it may have existed. Was it an antediluvian civilization, or might it have existed much more recently, in the bronze age? Was it somewhere in the Atlantic ocean, or in another body of water? We look at Morocco, Malta, Richat, Azores, Bolivia, and many other places.

Possibly, as with so many of these ancient mysteries, we will never really know.

Episode #174: Bronze Age Atlantis

We are joined once again by Snakeforce member Tony Petrangelo to continue discussing the topic of Plato's Atlantis, and whether this story could have possibly been referring to the time period of the bronze age collapse and the invasion of Egypt by the mysterious "Sea People".

Tony leads us through the complexities of bronze age civilizations in the Mediterranean, looking at clay tablets of letters being written from one king to another describing the state of their kingdoms and the problems they were facing.  We also look at the description of the invasion and defeat of the Sea People in Egypt, how they were described, and what they were called, and where they may have been from.

In the end, what Tony is showing us are the correlations to these events and some of the details given by Plato. He doesn't have a "location" of Atlantis, or an idea of "who" the "Atlanteans" were. Rather, he is looking at the evidence to see if this may have been the time period for the events described by Plato.

Here is a list of the sources Tony used for this episode:

Books

Meet me in Atlantis by Mark Adams

Sunken Kingdom by Peter James

1177 BC by Eric Cline

Sea Peoples of the Bronze Age Mediterranean c.1400 BC–1000 BC by Andrea Salimbeti & Raffaele D’Amato

Seagoing Ships & Seamanship in the Bronze Age Levant by Shelley Wachsmann

Exodus to Arthur by Mike Baillie


Papers

Literary History in the Parian Marble by Andrea Rotstein

A Mycenaean Fountain on the Athenian Acropolis by Oscar Broneer

Athens in the Late Bronze Age by Oscar Broneer

Landscape Changes around Tiryns during the Bronze Age by Eberhard Zangger

The Great Karnak Inscription of Merneptah: Grand Strategy in the 13th Century B.C. by Colleen Manassa Darnell

Libyan Trade and Society on the Eve of the Invasions of Egypt by Seth Richardson

The Role of the Lukka People in Late Bronze Age Anatolia by Trevor Bryce

The Ethnicity of the Sea Peoples by Frederik Christiaan Woudhuizen

Connected Histories: the Dynamics of Bronze Age Interaction and Trade 1500–1100 bc by Kristian Kristiansen & Paulina Suchowska-Ducke

New technologies and transformations in the European Bronze Age: the case of Naue II swords by Paulina Suchowska-Ducke

Episode #167: Plato, Timaeus, and Atlantis

This week we are joined by another SnakeForce guest, Tony Petrangelo. Tony is an active member in the Discord and has been heavily researching Plato, Socrates, the Mediterranean Bronze Age civilizations, and Atlantis.

We asked Tony to come on the show and talk to us about his research and his take on the Timaeus dialogue. He gives an excellent presentation, taking us through select parts of the text, providing context, opinions of academics, Neo-Platonics, and other researchers, along with his own particular take on what Plato may be talking about. This is excellent information for anyone interested in the concept of Atlantis.

See more of Tony's research on Atlantis at his website, https://atlantis.fyi/

Below are some links Tony sent for anyone wishing to do further research:

Timaeus (Jowett translation)
Critias (Jowett translation)
Timaeus and Critias (Taylor translation)
Plato’s Forms, Pythagorean Mathematics, and Stichometry by JB Kennedy
The Musical Structure of Plato’s Dialogues by JB Kennedy
The Cosmic Serpent by Victor Clube and Bill Napier
Literary History in the Parian Marble by Andrea Rotstein

Atlantipedia
Atlantis-Scout

And of course, check the Library of the Serpent, which is full of relevant material.

Shadows in a Cave

Episode #030: Jeremy Figgins

Episode 30 is a fantastic interview with a scholar of all things strange, credentialed ancient historian, Fortean initiate, and most importantly a dedicated Snakebros listener, mister Jeremy Figgins.

The official show observer Brett England joins us for the interview, throughout which we discuss....well, just about everything, and Jeremy gives us his unique insight on many classic Snakebro topics. Give it a listen, you won't be disappointed.